> The analogy is kind of striking, when you think about it.
It's an old one:
"Damn it feels good to be a gangsta
Gettin' voted into the White House
Everything lookin' good to the people of the world
But the Mafia family is my boss "
I was sure this was going to say that they were going to force travelers to get Truth Social accounts.
Somehow I was surprised beyond my wildest guess what they would be asking people to do.
I want people to visit the U.S., but if they require that they submit all of this data, I expect that they all protest by not visiting or even coming here for work.
There are just so many terrible ideas that come from this administration that I think that they should try to harness the power all of those bad ideas in a infinite idiocy power plant to power the world for all generations to come.
I came here to ask exactly the same question - i use temp addresses for lots of scammy-looking services. I don't even care to read what the email or domain is. I guess there is no way to enter the US?
Apart from the alarming privacy implications of these proposed rules, I wonder how FIFA might feel about this, ahead of the World Cup. Maybe they could award Trump a privacy prize if his administration backs down from this.
Ah, more laws and regulations that cannot be followed by most people.
I couldn’t tell you every single “social media” account I’ve made over the years as various startups failed after I tried them.
I definitely couldn’t get all my family’s information, even if constrained to just immediate family.
I bet Palantir and three letter agencies have that information though, so this will be another lever they can use to selectively enforce punishment on their enemy of the day.
So if the agencies already have this information, then you are not actually giving them any information. This is a test to see if you are compliant.
Also, given how much inaccurate information is on the internet, including AI hallucinations and people with similar names, there is a chance that they have wrong information about you. And since you can't correct them, or tell them about this false information that you don't know about, so you are basically banned from ever visiting.
I wonder what position the U.S. Chamber of Commerce (which Wikipedia describes as the largest lobbying group in the US) will take on this. I'd like to think they are rational and recognize that 99.99%+ of visitors are bringing tourism money to the United States.
I would love to visit the US one day and i do understand that it has no obligation to just let me in, but this seems a bit excessive for a short visit especially seeing as my country has a deal with the US not to require visas. I wonder if i would have to disclose my hn account(s). My cover would be blown! I guess i'm lucky i've made pro Trump comments...
Not that I know the details, but wasn't it easier to join the Mafia? Just the names and addresses of your folks in the old country (as "collateral")
The analogy is kind of striking, when you think about it.
> The analogy is kind of striking, when you think about it.
It's an old one:
"Damn it feels good to be a gangsta Gettin' voted into the White House Everything lookin' good to the people of the world But the Mafia family is my boss "
Getto Boys, Office Space soundtrack
Gotta be born into it.
What about Henry Hill? (Goodfellas)
Probably applies to “made men”
And that’s no guarantee. Look at Billy Batts.
I was sure this was going to say that they were going to force travelers to get Truth Social accounts.
Somehow I was surprised beyond my wildest guess what they would be asking people to do.
I want people to visit the U.S., but if they require that they submit all of this data, I expect that they all protest by not visiting or even coming here for work.
There are just so many terrible ideas that come from this administration that I think that they should try to harness the power all of those bad ideas in a infinite idiocy power plant to power the world for all generations to come.
If you think they are bad ideas, your presumptions of their goals may be incorrect. Bad meaning not furthering their goals that is.
All this effort for legal immigration and then US wonders why they have so many illegals.
They want email addresses used. How does that work for people who use Mozilla Relay or Apple's HideMyEmail?
You can easily accumulate hundreds of unique email addresses this way.
Do they really expect you to input 500+ email addresses?
It doesn't matter, they likely want everyone to be non-compliant so that they have an excuse to arrest you if they don't like you.
I came here to ask exactly the same question - i use temp addresses for lots of scammy-looking services. I don't even care to read what the email or domain is. I guess there is no way to enter the US?
you could put down the email address they end up in or you could learn to lie plausibly
Yes please take as many of the ≈10^12 unique email addresses I have used in the last year.
Land of the free indeed.
Apart from the alarming privacy implications of these proposed rules, I wonder how FIFA might feel about this, ahead of the World Cup. Maybe they could award Trump a privacy prize if his administration backs down from this.
Ah, more laws and regulations that cannot be followed by most people.
I couldn’t tell you every single “social media” account I’ve made over the years as various startups failed after I tried them.
I definitely couldn’t get all my family’s information, even if constrained to just immediate family.
I bet Palantir and three letter agencies have that information though, so this will be another lever they can use to selectively enforce punishment on their enemy of the day.
So if the agencies already have this information, then you are not actually giving them any information. This is a test to see if you are compliant.
Also, given how much inaccurate information is on the internet, including AI hallucinations and people with similar names, there is a chance that they have wrong information about you. And since you can't correct them, or tell them about this false information that you don't know about, so you are basically banned from ever visiting.
I wonder what position the U.S. Chamber of Commerce (which Wikipedia describes as the largest lobbying group in the US) will take on this. I'd like to think they are rational and recognize that 99.99%+ of visitors are bringing tourism money to the United States.
[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46764381
I would love to visit the US one day and i do understand that it has no obligation to just let me in, but this seems a bit excessive for a short visit especially seeing as my country has a deal with the US not to require visas. I wonder if i would have to disclose my hn account(s). My cover would be blown! I guess i'm lucky i've made pro Trump comments...
> im lucky i've made pro Trump comments
Once implemented, such regulation will stay even if trump leaves. When the democrats take over again, this will be used against you.