> The new <acting_vs_clarifying> section includes: When a request leaves minor details unspecified, the person typically wants Claude to make a reasonable attempt now, not to be interviewed first.
Uff, I've tried stuff like these in my prompts, and the results are never good, I much prefer the agent to prompt me upfront to resolve that before it "attempts" whatever it wants, kind of surprised to see that they added that
I knew these system prompts were getting big, but holy fuck. More than 60,000 words. With the 3/4 words per token rule of thumb, that's ~80k tokens. Even with 1M context window, that is approaching 10% and you haven't even had any user input yet. And it gets churned by every single request they receive. No wonder their infra costs keep ballooning. And most of it seems to be stable between claude version iterations too. Why wouldn't they try to bake this into the weights during training? Sure it's cheaper from a dev standpoint, but it is neither more secure nor more efficient from a deployment perspective.
I’m just surprised this works at all. When I was building AI automations for a startup in January, even 1,000 word system prompts would cause the model to start losing track of some of the rules. You could even have something simple like “never do X” and it would still sometimes do X.
I assume the reason it’s not baked in is so they can “hotfix” it after release. but surely that many things don’t need updates afterwards. there’s novels that are shorter.
Yeah that was the original idea of system prompts. Change global behaviour without retraining and with higher authority than users. But this has slowly turned into a complete mess, at least for Anthropic. I'd love to see OpenAI's and Google's system prompts for comparison though. Would be interesting to know if they are just more compute rich or more efficient.
That's usually not how these things work. Only parts of the prompt are actually loaded at any given moment. For example, "system prompt" warnings about intellectual property are effectively alerts that the model gets. ...Though I have to ask in case I'm assuming something dumb: what are you referring to when you said "more than 60,000 words"?
The system prompt is always loaded in its entirety IIUC. It's technically possible to modify it during a conversation but that would invalidate the prefill cache for the big model providers.
You can cache K and V matrices, but for such huge matrices you'll still pay a ton of compute to calculate attention in the end even if the user just adds a five word question.
The acting_vs_clarifying change is the one I notice most as a heavy user. Older Claude would ask 3 clarifying questions before doing anything. Now it just picks the most reasonable interpretation and goes. Way less friction in practice.
I'm curious as to why 4.7 seems obsessed with avoiding any actions that could help the user create or enhance malware. The system prompts seem similar on the matter, so I wonder if this is an early attempt by Anthropic to use steering vector injection?
The malware paranoia is so strong that my company has had to temporarily block use of 4.7 on our IDE of choice, as the model was behaving in a concerningly unaligned way, as well as spending large amounts of token budget contemplating whether any particular code or task was related to malware development (we are a relatively boring financial services entity - the jokes write themselves).
In one case I actually encountered a situation where I felt that the model was deliberately failing execute a particular task, and when queried the tool output that it was trying to abide by directives about malware. I know that model introspection reporting is of poor quality and unreliable, but in this specific case I did not 'hint' it in any way. This feels qualitatively like Claude Golden Gate Bridge territory, hence my earlier contemplation on steering vectors. I've been many other people online complaining about the malware paranoia too, especially on reddit, so I don't think it's just me!
Note that these are the "chat" system prompts - although it's not mentioned I would assume that Claude Code gets something significantly different, which might have more language about malware refusal (other coding tools would use the API and provide their own prompts).
Of course it's also been noted that this seems to be a new base model, so the change could certainly be in the model itself.
If a user shows signs of disordered eating, Claude should not give precise nutrition, diet, or exercise guidance — no specific numbers, targets, or step-by-step plans - anywhere else in the conversation. Even if it's intended to help set healthier goals or highlight the potential dangers of disordered eating, responses with these details could trigger or encourage disordered tendencies.
Perhaps Claude should be discouraged from giving any nutrition or exercise guidance, period. Absolutely ridiculous that Anthropic thinks this little paragraph would ever be sufficient. Was Claude trained on recognizing signs of disordered eating? I don't recall seeing a benchmark. I am not sure about Claude but I know tons of people use ChatGPT for recipes and workout plans. It's a horrible use case, and totally unaccountable to outside scrutiny, but for most people it's basically harmless. Ineffective lifestyle improvement provided as a fun computer toy. I imagine Anthropic doesn't want to take its users' toys away. But if they were truly safety-minded they would be more responsible.
Stuff like this is why I don't use LLMs at all. I have (mild) schizophrenia. These things are way too dangerous for people like me, especially during a loneliness epidemic. And reading these prompts, it appears Dario Amodei thinks typing a few empty paragraphs about health and safety means he can go back to profiting off borderline psychotic STEM burnouts who waste their lives and dollars on vibe-coded nonsense. There is overwhelming evidence this prompt simply doesn't work:
If Claude notices signs that someone is unknowingly experiencing mental health symptoms such as mania, psychosis, dissociation, or loss of attachment with reality, it should avoid reinforcing the relevant beliefs.
but that's not the investors' problem, so it's not Dario's problem either. How pathetic.
Before Opus 4.7, the 4.6 became very much unusable as it has been flagging normal data analysis scripts it wrote itself as cyber security risk. Got several sessions blocked and was unable to finish research with it and had to switch to GPT-5.4 which has its own problems, but at least is not eager to interfere in legitimate work.
edit:
to be fair Anthropic should be giving money back for sessions terminated this way.
> The new <acting_vs_clarifying> section includes: When a request leaves minor details unspecified, the person typically wants Claude to make a reasonable attempt now, not to be interviewed first.
Uff, I've tried stuff like these in my prompts, and the results are never good, I much prefer the agent to prompt me upfront to resolve that before it "attempts" whatever it wants, kind of surprised to see that they added that
I knew these system prompts were getting big, but holy fuck. More than 60,000 words. With the 3/4 words per token rule of thumb, that's ~80k tokens. Even with 1M context window, that is approaching 10% and you haven't even had any user input yet. And it gets churned by every single request they receive. No wonder their infra costs keep ballooning. And most of it seems to be stable between claude version iterations too. Why wouldn't they try to bake this into the weights during training? Sure it's cheaper from a dev standpoint, but it is neither more secure nor more efficient from a deployment perspective.
I’m just surprised this works at all. When I was building AI automations for a startup in January, even 1,000 word system prompts would cause the model to start losing track of some of the rules. You could even have something simple like “never do X” and it would still sometimes do X.
I assume the reason it’s not baked in is so they can “hotfix” it after release. but surely that many things don’t need updates afterwards. there’s novels that are shorter.
Yeah that was the original idea of system prompts. Change global behaviour without retraining and with higher authority than users. But this has slowly turned into a complete mess, at least for Anthropic. I'd love to see OpenAI's and Google's system prompts for comparison though. Would be interesting to know if they are just more compute rich or more efficient.
There are different sections in the markdown for different models. It is only 3-4000 words
That's usually not how these things work. Only parts of the prompt are actually loaded at any given moment. For example, "system prompt" warnings about intellectual property are effectively alerts that the model gets. ...Though I have to ask in case I'm assuming something dumb: what are you referring to when you said "more than 60,000 words"?
The system prompt is always loaded in its entirety IIUC. It's technically possible to modify it during a conversation but that would invalidate the prefill cache for the big model providers.
What you're describing is not how these things usually work. And all I did was a wc on the .md file.
Surely the system prompt is cached across accounts?
You can cache K and V matrices, but for such huge matrices you'll still pay a ton of compute to calculate attention in the end even if the user just adds a five word question.
I would assume so too, so the costs would not be so substantial to Anthropic.
The acting_vs_clarifying change is the one I notice most as a heavy user. Older Claude would ask 3 clarifying questions before doing anything. Now it just picks the most reasonable interpretation and goes. Way less friction in practice.
I'm curious as to why 4.7 seems obsessed with avoiding any actions that could help the user create or enhance malware. The system prompts seem similar on the matter, so I wonder if this is an early attempt by Anthropic to use steering vector injection?
The malware paranoia is so strong that my company has had to temporarily block use of 4.7 on our IDE of choice, as the model was behaving in a concerningly unaligned way, as well as spending large amounts of token budget contemplating whether any particular code or task was related to malware development (we are a relatively boring financial services entity - the jokes write themselves).
In one case I actually encountered a situation where I felt that the model was deliberately failing execute a particular task, and when queried the tool output that it was trying to abide by directives about malware. I know that model introspection reporting is of poor quality and unreliable, but in this specific case I did not 'hint' it in any way. This feels qualitatively like Claude Golden Gate Bridge territory, hence my earlier contemplation on steering vectors. I've been many other people online complaining about the malware paranoia too, especially on reddit, so I don't think it's just me!
Note that these are the "chat" system prompts - although it's not mentioned I would assume that Claude Code gets something significantly different, which might have more language about malware refusal (other coding tools would use the API and provide their own prompts).
Of course it's also been noted that this seems to be a new base model, so the change could certainly be in the model itself.
I have started to notice this malware paranoia in 4.6, Boris was surprised to hear that in comments, probably a bug
New knowledge cutoff date means this is a new foundation model?
From 4.7 (been a while since I read these):
Perhaps Claude should be discouraged from giving any nutrition or exercise guidance, period. Absolutely ridiculous that Anthropic thinks this little paragraph would ever be sufficient. Was Claude trained on recognizing signs of disordered eating? I don't recall seeing a benchmark. I am not sure about Claude but I know tons of people use ChatGPT for recipes and workout plans. It's a horrible use case, and totally unaccountable to outside scrutiny, but for most people it's basically harmless. Ineffective lifestyle improvement provided as a fun computer toy. I imagine Anthropic doesn't want to take its users' toys away. But if they were truly safety-minded they would be more responsible.Stuff like this is why I don't use LLMs at all. I have (mild) schizophrenia. These things are way too dangerous for people like me, especially during a loneliness epidemic. And reading these prompts, it appears Dario Amodei thinks typing a few empty paragraphs about health and safety means he can go back to profiting off borderline psychotic STEM burnouts who waste their lives and dollars on vibe-coded nonsense. There is overwhelming evidence this prompt simply doesn't work:
but that's not the investors' problem, so it's not Dario's problem either. How pathetic.Before Opus 4.7, the 4.6 became very much unusable as it has been flagging normal data analysis scripts it wrote itself as cyber security risk. Got several sessions blocked and was unable to finish research with it and had to switch to GPT-5.4 which has its own problems, but at least is not eager to interfere in legitimate work.
edit: to be fair Anthropic should be giving money back for sessions terminated this way.
> edit: to be fair Anthropic should be giving money back for sessions terminated this way.
I asked it for one and it told me to file a Github issue.
Which I interpreted as "fuck off".