This idea reads like a joke, but there's something to it.
One feature request: In addition to high-level milestones, it would be cool if a partially-funded project would generate a public, highly detailed implementation plan.
Also, IANAL but MIT is still a license with a copyright holder. I don't think saying "it's MIT, we all own it" is defensible. The courts might view all this code as public domain.
Rather, it did work at milestone 14, but then regressed at milestone 15, where it changed the link from a wikimedia image to a nonexistent file in /assets (despite still having the "Photo via Wikimedia Commons" caption).
If you check "DEPLOYMENT.md," there is a lengthy list of deployment instructions for the app, and it includes creating an assets folder and putting an image of Claude Shannon in it. There are also other instructions, like "please make a favicon." So I think that bit is valid, the AI is simply farming out work to the human agent.
My question, though, is why the "Live, public build log" only showing up to milestone 3, but the artifacts go up to milestone 15? And there are different index.html pages in the artifacts list, one for milestone 14 and one for milestone 15? Are there different conceptions of "milestone" in here? What's up with that?
Not affordable, unless the devs are in somewhere like Vietnam. And there's still no way they can build as fast. And still, at that price point, quality would be highly questionable. So yh this doesn't survive beyond the joke stage.
Neat project idea, but truly ruined by requiring A google sign-in both to submit new projects and to donate to projects. Dead service to me until that's gone.
It's how they name classes of models, presumably this implies something about the relative quantization / size of model, not about the specific performance. E.g. Fabel 5 will be better than Opus 5, better than Sonnet 5, etc. The 5 is the version number of the particular iteration / training run at this class of model.
A lot of AWS is built on open-source. This is obviously ignoring hardware costs. I don’t know if it is all that ridiculous anymore. These models are very good at wiring together open-source systems. The world is crazy right now…
They should have called this "WishingWell". I'm wishing them well, but some of these projects are so over the top pie-in-the-sky silly, and funded with $0.25.
I think the bottleneck is testing. I want to build a replacement for Zwift, a virtual gym game for bike trainers and treadmills, but testing it could be difficult without a real person on real hardware. How does the LLM know about the hardware protocols and stuff like that.
Before putting in money to this small anonymous website, I'd love to hear about the people behind the project. There's a single mention of 'Barras Industries', but not much mention about them online, or what else they've worked on.
This idea reads like a joke, but there's something to it.
One feature request: In addition to high-level milestones, it would be cool if a partially-funded project would generate a public, highly detailed implementation plan.
Also, IANAL but MIT is still a license with a copyright holder. I don't think saying "it's MIT, we all own it" is defensible. The courts might view all this code as public domain.
I love how even the "demo build" doesn't work. https://fablepool.com/projects/7
Rather, it did work at milestone 14, but then regressed at milestone 15, where it changed the link from a wikimedia image to a nonexistent file in /assets (despite still having the "Photo via Wikimedia Commons" caption).
edit: they removed it :^)
If you check "DEPLOYMENT.md," there is a lengthy list of deployment instructions for the app, and it includes creating an assets folder and putting an image of Claude Shannon in it. There are also other instructions, like "please make a favicon." So I think that bit is valid, the AI is simply farming out work to the human agent.
My question, though, is why the "Live, public build log" only showing up to milestone 3, but the artifacts go up to milestone 15? And there are different index.html pages in the artifacts list, one for milestone 14 and one for milestone 15? Are there different conceptions of "milestone" in here? What's up with that?
Hear me out: the same idea, but hire live developers.
(Given the price of tokens, it can even be not entirely a joke.)
This was a pre-LLM YC startup AssemblyMade which was basically this
I don't understand how that would not be a complete joke even if tokens were 2 orders of magnitude more expensive than they are.
Not affordable, unless the devs are in somewhere like Vietnam. And there's still no way they can build as fast. And still, at that price point, quality would be highly questionable. So yh this doesn't survive beyond the joke stage.
The mention of quality puts it firmly into the joke territory, indeed.
If you put that behind an API, you could sell the service much like the AI providers
And then get sued for fraud and go under, like Builder.ai
What if, and I know this is utterly batshit insane to suggest, but what if we don't lie about what we're doing?
Thats called Kickstarter
how expensive do you think tokens are, and/or how cheap do you think a developer is?
It can work for students as a grant
Fable will actually finish the job.
Neat project idea, but truly ruined by requiring A google sign-in both to submit new projects and to donate to projects. Dead service to me until that's gone.
I feel like using Fable in the name is a mistake, who knows how long that model will be around.
But it sounds like FableFool so it has that going for it.
You could call it aiproductsexchange.com
Bold move leaving out the dash between words a la experts-exchange lol.
I don't think using the name Fable is wrong, but I think a pool of Fables should be called a Grimm, or possibly an Aesop.
It's how they name classes of models, presumably this implies something about the relative quantization / size of model, not about the specific performance. E.g. Fabel 5 will be better than Opus 5, better than Sonnet 5, etc. The 5 is the version number of the particular iteration / training run at this class of model.
I think they mean: I feel like using [Sonnet/Opus/Fable] in the name [URL] is a mistake, who knows how long that model will be around
xda-developers.com vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O2_Xda
So the completed sample was estimated at $0.35, actually cost $0.52, but spend $0.55
This bot is almost as bad as I am at estimating projects.
Did it not charge anything for the estimation itself? I wonder what model they’re using for that
> Build a completely greenroom, open source AWS
> est. total target $516.00
Lol
A lot of AWS is built on open-source. This is obviously ignoring hardware costs. I don’t know if it is all that ridiculous anymore. These models are very good at wiring together open-source systems. The world is crazy right now…
They should have called this "WishingWell". I'm wishing them well, but some of these projects are so over the top pie-in-the-sky silly, and funded with $0.25.
I think the bottleneck is testing. I want to build a replacement for Zwift, a virtual gym game for bike trainers and treadmills, but testing it could be difficult without a real person on real hardware. How does the LLM know about the hardware protocols and stuff like that.
Same way you’d do it without AI. Record sample data, test against that, generate more data, test IRL, record more data, loop until it’s good enough.
I don't have one. how through is this blog post reverse engineering it? https://www.makinolo.com/blog/2024/07/26/zwift-ride-protocol... ?
Before putting in money to this small anonymous website, I'd love to hear about the people behind the project. There's a single mention of 'Barras Industries', but not much mention about them online, or what else they've worked on.
"Solve Garbage Collection in C# for HFT · $10.00 raised of est. $200.00 target"
This can't be serious.
Broader point I am making is, what differentiates genuine ideas from the token burn? What happens when the pool exhausts but the task is not done?
You keep putting money into the slot and pulling the lever
This strikes me as crowd-funded prompt caching, but with humans in the loop.
It would work if an engineer steered the pools. But doing this autonomously is a pipe dream.
Man, I really hope this kind of effort could be put into auditing the security situation of open source projects (via Mythos or not.)
Fantastic idea for a rug pull
attach github to this. this is the new way to do opensource i guess
Like DeFi but for agencies.
Everything turns into a computer game and entertainment.
Maybe add a "Build a worm that shuts down all Anthropic data centers."
This, unfortunately, gets flagged for cyber and you would need to be on the unlocked Mythos.
This is literally an idea by the primegean on his YouTube under predictions. Self prophecy really with his reach but credit where it's due?
He's been right about other things before, such as this: https://youtu.be/m-bT5v5Tm7w
Kinda fun but the approach today is strictly oneshot. Waiting for agentswithwallets to post.
Brilliant idea! We need consensus protocols for voting on phases. Similar to the "twitch" plays Pokemon phenomenom.
anyone who donates gets to vote (?)
This is a genius idea, I love it!!
Cypherpunks will be proud once there is a version of this cryptocurrency funded to providers receiving the cryptocurrency.
Or maybe there is? or a version where only those funding have access to the results.
Hell yeah, $516 for a complete AWS replacement, I'm in lol!
Reminds of the four college kids that were going to clone Facebook. Turns out it's hard than it looks, if you have never tried it.
I wonder how the estimates are being created.
I doubt an LLM would estimate an AWS rewrite to cost $500.
https://fablepool.com/projects/7 It didn't even put a picture in!
Is this the new open source?
This is a good idea and for features and modifications you can make it so whoever chips in the most money gets more votes.
This is one of those ideas that sounds bad on paper (Like people renting out their houses. But if implemented correctly could get some traction.
This is a fantastic idea.
There are lots of projects, software that shouldn't be SaaS subscriptions that Fable can build in public that can be free for everyone and also OSS.
Ok who wants to pool up to build GTA 7? /s
This is such a good idea. Hell yeah
Lol.
"I want an open source AWS" with $500 budget made me guffaw
OpenStack already exists
"I have a turbofan model, pls build an Airbus" sounds about right