> It's finally here! We believe that Kagi's application of AI should always be useful - there when you'd like it, and never when you don't, and always respecting your privacy.
It's nice to have choice here when, e.g. Google, has been trending in the opposite direction.
Even before this toggle Kagi's implementation seemed very opt-in. But default there aren't AI answers, a question market needs to be added at the end of the search string, and I believe that could be turned off. It seems like this new toggle would mainly get rid of the button to trigger an AI answer on the search page.
Interesting to see this and SearXNG on the front page at the same time. The latter replaced the former for me, and I've enjoyed primarily searching through a local model.
SearXNG is different though, because it still relies on a data-harvesting, ad-driven online economy. Off course if all you care about is privacy, might be fine, not sure how good it is at hiding you, but if you care more about not having your data/attention be the revenue source and having software incentives be to offer something customers are willing to part money for, Kagi is still it.
edit: Kagi Translate still works for paying customers. I was completely unaware they'd been giving it away for free.
>Kagi News and Kagi Translate have both been successes that took us by surprise.
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>But these unexpected successes led to a massive spike in our costs for applications offered for free.
>As a result, we have temporarily removed translations and left access to the articles’ original languages as well as English. Kagi Translate will be back in the coming days as a subscription-based service.
Free? I'm a paying customer. Maybe you can't provide unlimited translate access, but I expect some amount of translation access as part of my Kagi subscription.
> It's finally here! We believe that Kagi's application of AI should always be useful - there when you'd like it, and never when you don't, and always respecting your privacy.
It's nice to have choice here when, e.g. Google, has been trending in the opposite direction.
Even before this toggle Kagi's implementation seemed very opt-in. But default there aren't AI answers, a question market needs to be added at the end of the search string, and I believe that could be turned off. It seems like this new toggle would mainly get rid of the button to trigger an AI answer on the search page.
Interesting to see this and SearXNG on the front page at the same time. The latter replaced the former for me, and I've enjoyed primarily searching through a local model.
SearXNG is different though, because it still relies on a data-harvesting, ad-driven online economy. Off course if all you care about is privacy, might be fine, not sure how good it is at hiding you, but if you care more about not having your data/attention be the revenue source and having software incentives be to offer something customers are willing to part money for, Kagi is still it.
edit: Kagi Translate still works for paying customers. I was completely unaware they'd been giving it away for free.
>Kagi News and Kagi Translate have both been successes that took us by surprise. ... >But these unexpected successes led to a massive spike in our costs for applications offered for free.
>As a result, we have temporarily removed translations and left access to the articles’ original languages as well as English. Kagi Translate will be back in the coming days as a subscription-based service.
Free? I'm a paying customer. Maybe you can't provide unlimited translate access, but I expect some amount of translation access as part of my Kagi subscription.
"If you have an active subscription, Translate still works."
There are still problems though - in Chrome translation addon simply no way to login properly so its broken //
That's from the June 16 post, does that still apply?
I'm a subscriber, and I just tested that translate still works fine
Awesome, I was a bit concerned.