Great, the start of model segmentation where I'm gonna need a legal license to ask about legal problems, a nutritionist license to create a meal plan, a medical license to ask about an x-ray, a pilots license to ask about a flight plan, be a registered electrician to ask how to wire something, etc etc. The licensing of allowed thoughts.
Apparently I can pay for partial solutions to the Riemann hypothesis but if my question involves a crackme or something that is an existential risk somehow.
Have you thought for a single moment that this could save our profession? If people need a software development license to use AI for software development we wouldn't loose our jobs just like lawyers or doctors won't?
How much will a license cost? Can it be earned? If granted, granted by whom? Can I use it across models? Does it need to be reassessed regularly? How often?
If any of the above are more convenient than paying an engineer you aren’t any safer, the enterprise paying is just putting money in someone else’s pocket.
Most engineers have licenses in the engineering discipline, except Electric Engineers. Mechanical and Civil. Engineering is based on the constraints of physics thus applied to mankind uses. Now if you talk about software "engineers" (as i am one), that is quite fast and loose.
Based on the damage done in some sectors, it would be interesting to see an alternative history where software required licenses and degrees. Certainly, the larger tech ecosystem would have moved more slowly, and products more expensive.
While EE are basically held accountable by their employers, and the physics of it all requiring that things work correctly, software developers don't have the same kind of feedback loop. Thus any country that did not play into that system would compete on features over quality. I don't think that would have lasted. Same issue with "pausing" AI development in one country.
Furthermore everybody should need a license from the government or industry to cook morning breakfast on the stove. Fire hazards and all. Could do real harm if something went wrong.
I can't tell if your comment is satire or not, so, bravo :)
From my perspective what I always loved about "the profession" was a relative LACK of gatekeeping. I loved offensive security for the same reason, there was a long run where you really just needed to be able to hack, and if you could demonstrate that there was a job for you somewhere (for better or worse).
Keeping the industry in its current form frozen in amber would be as weird as, I don't know, keeping horses & carriages in business by regulating scarcity of motor vehicle licenses. Not a great analogy but hopefully you see what I mean.
What exactly is so fascinating? I would rather take Kimi K3 any day rather than go through this “Oracle Inc” like process and have it all recorded by OpenAI.
I understand that “normal” people are let’s say “less concerned” about posting everything on something like Facebook but I expect more from OPSec people.
These “safeguards” aren’t guarding anything tho, just yesterday I was pentesting something and 5.6 sol initially said that it can’t do xyz, I added 2 words at the end and it proceeded like it was nothing, follow up prompts I didn’t even add anything it just assumed and carried on normally.
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All I did was open and close the Persona tab.
Even Anthropic accepted me into their cyber program.
Great, the start of model segmentation where I'm gonna need a legal license to ask about legal problems, a nutritionist license to create a meal plan, a medical license to ask about an x-ray, a pilots license to ask about a flight plan, be a registered electrician to ask how to wire something, etc etc. The licensing of allowed thoughts.
Apparently I can pay for partial solutions to the Riemann hypothesis but if my question involves a crackme or something that is an existential risk somehow.
Have you thought for a single moment that this could save our profession? If people need a software development license to use AI for software development we wouldn't loose our jobs just like lawyers or doctors won't?
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How much will a license cost? Can it be earned? If granted, granted by whom? Can I use it across models? Does it need to be reassessed regularly? How often?
If any of the above are more convenient than paying an engineer you aren’t any safer, the enterprise paying is just putting money in someone else’s pocket.
Most engineers have licenses in the engineering discipline, except Electric Engineers. Mechanical and Civil. Engineering is based on the constraints of physics thus applied to mankind uses. Now if you talk about software "engineers" (as i am one), that is quite fast and loose.
Based on the damage done in some sectors, it would be interesting to see an alternative history where software required licenses and degrees. Certainly, the larger tech ecosystem would have moved more slowly, and products more expensive.
While EE are basically held accountable by their employers, and the physics of it all requiring that things work correctly, software developers don't have the same kind of feedback loop. Thus any country that did not play into that system would compete on features over quality. I don't think that would have lasted. Same issue with "pausing" AI development in one country.
There are definitely a ton of PE electrical engineers. The power industry - transmission, generation, distribution, is rife with them.
Furthermore everybody should need a license from the government or industry to cook morning breakfast on the stove. Fire hazards and all. Could do real harm if something went wrong.
You do need a license to sell food in most countries.
That would be doing the wrong thing for precisely the wrong reasons.
I can't tell if your comment is satire or not, so, bravo :)
From my perspective what I always loved about "the profession" was a relative LACK of gatekeeping. I loved offensive security for the same reason, there was a long run where you really just needed to be able to hack, and if you could demonstrate that there was a job for you somewhere (for better or worse).
Keeping the industry in its current form frozen in amber would be as weird as, I don't know, keeping horses & carriages in business by regulating scarcity of motor vehicle licenses. Not a great analogy but hopefully you see what I mean.
> just like lawyers or doctors won't
Pretty big assumption.
I like this because it levels the spying gap between the US and China. With Red the CIA can probably penetrate some Chinese government sites.
The requirement for hardware security keys ties the use of these models even tighter to a specific identity.
This will limit ability to scale or share the model.
https://lifearchitect.ai/models-table/
how did this not reach the front page? this is fascinating.
What exactly is so fascinating? I would rather take Kimi K3 any day rather than go through this “Oracle Inc” like process and have it all recorded by OpenAI.
I understand that “normal” people are let’s say “less concerned” about posting everything on something like Facebook but I expect more from OPSec people.
How do Kimi K3 subscriptions compare to OpenAI's in terms of price and usage?
These “safeguards” aren’t guarding anything tho, just yesterday I was pentesting something and 5.6 sol initially said that it can’t do xyz, I added 2 words at the end and it proceeded like it was nothing, follow up prompts I didn’t even add anything it just assumed and carried on normally.
The constant interruptions and "can't show this content" are extremely annoying though.
> We couldn't start verification. You may not be eligible for this verification flow right now. Please try again later, or contact support if you think this is a mistake.
> POST /backend-api/compliance/cyber_verification/persona/inquiries
> 403 cyber_verification_precheck_failed
All I did was open and close the Persona tab.
Even Anthropic accepted me into their cyber program.