What is it with AI people and plagiarism? Here they are stealing Blender's mascot as their brand. (Scroll down to "Everything real was designed first" and they even have the Suzanne model spinning behind the text.)
Does Blender own any IP rights over that model? A quick search shows it is based on the Orangutan character from the 2001 movie "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back".
“Well it’s not technically plagiarism because ChatGPT learned how to draw just like a human and who am I to stop it from being inspired by the Blender logo! Just don’t you dare imply that I am not the sole author of this work because that hurts my feelings you filthy elitist gatekeeper.”
One thing AI does well is allow businesses a much longer delay before realizing that designers’ real value is figuring out what things should look like to solve specific business problems. To CEOs/founders/presidents: The logo isn’t for you— it’s for your customers. Your personal taste and preconceptions should have no part in the process. Anybody with a few years in Illustrator could make any asset you needed. Just because you can make a neato looking logo with your chatbot of choice, doesn’t mean it’s an appropriate logo, and there are people who work for a pretty modest salary that can explain exactly why.
1. A frontier model wrapper that gens the designs
2. A bunch of humans behind the scenes ("AI means Another Indian") actually reviewing and fixing the design.
That is, get to market quickly with people, gather lots of data, and hope that models can be refined eventually so less/no human review is needed.
I recently worked with Claude Opus 5 High to help me build a testing rig for some acoustic tests. There was a lot of back and forth with each time Claude giving me the stereotypical "Great catch! I see my mistake in the previous iteration..." responses.
How could a person (of any ethnicity) be able to respond reliably enough and quickly enough to design nudges to be able to iterate back and forth on this kind of thing with any usable latency? I don't think it's possible.
I've been thinking lately that all the talk about a AGI, Super intelligence, AI singularity today is practically not worth considering until they are capable of generating innovations to our current processes and materials significant enough to change the economics of running a plant. It should be obvious that a world with a system capable of improving itself rapidly would first need to be capable of improving it's own hardware but before that I think we should at least see some changes in the economics of creating and running manufacturing plants.
Agreed. Getting to the Singularity requires that the AI be capable of improving its own iteration cycle time for doubling its processor performance, across the board - which means everything from physical design to fabrication to packaging and all the logistics surrounding that; getting the chip into a working host machine, online, and into the cluster... it's going to take a lot of humans for quite a while before we really kick off into the exponentiation.
Sorry this reads as if the founders currently have no clue how eyeglasse frames are made. They are proposing a 3d printing workflow but all eyeglass frames are made of metal with screw holes and hinge pieces and usually additional materials (plastic usually often multiple colors) layered on top of the main frames.
They are not 3d printed and can not be unless you making weird one piece frames.
Anyhow until they switch from solid modelling geometry to CAD I won’t take them seriously and no one else should either.
They are definitely in the fake it to you make it stage and have yet figured out how the real world of consumer products actually are made.
This is just another ThreeJS + LLM with the standard ThreeJS built in exporters.
having worked at the intersection of CAD/CAM automation & actual factories, I'm disappointed with the lack of real information on what their product actually does.
Going from bits to atoms is _hard_ for a ton of reasons, and their example prompt "Prepare this for manufacturing" is a huge red flag IMO. That said, I wish them luck, we need fresh blood in this slow moving industry.
I've gotten stuff that was 3-d printed and it was fascinating.
For example, ford has a square hole in some dashboards and someone made and sold a 3-d printed phone holder that perfectly fit into the hole.
I've seen tool trays that give you a place for all tools in a kit. This stuff used to be the territory of airplane mechanics who had to shadow their tools by regulation.
Not the parent poster, but I've been getting really tired of 3d printed crap and Ai generated slop models have just made it worse.
For background I've been into 3d printing since 2013, my first printer was an acrylic i3 clone with a RAMPS controller running Marlin. I've built 3 printers over the years and use my current one pretty regularly. I've been a 3d printing evangelist for years.
That said, going to any sort of craft fair or places like Etsy, and low effort 3d printed garbage is really getting annoying. I was at my small, local renfaire earlier this summer and 1/4 of the booths were just selling 3d printed and laser cut stuff, most of which were designs that are easily found online. I've seen this kind of stuff taking over at other similar spaces, and have seen people complaining about it for a year or so. It would maybe not be so much of a problem if people were making their own designs, but when it's just a model off of printables with at best some minor tweaks made by an AI tool, I have trouble getting excited.
For reference, of the 10 vendors I actually talked to who were selling these kinds of things, none had made any models themselves or were even familiar with blender, tinkercad, or any other modeling tools. There were 3d printed 'ale steins' that had had text embossed onto them, or plywood tchotkes with AI art lasered onto them. Annoying, since anyone who has done even a basic Google search should be well aware that 3d printing, especially FDM, is a terrible process for something like a drinking glass, that will be bacteria heaven and impossible to properly clean without very specific post-processing.
So while I can't say this is why the parent poster was annoyed, this is one of the reasons someone would be annoyed with 3d printing. If I'm browsing at a renfaire, I'm looking for a handmade thing to add to my costume or home decor. The last thing I want to see in that type of environment is a Ai-generated image of a dragon burned onto a cheap set of bamboo coasters bought off of alibaba. I've seen videos and posts onli3of people expressing similar annoyances, but the have been crafting, sewing, and similar creators so probably outside the general HN zeitgeist.
For simple things, http://sendcutsend.com already has an AI builder that you can prompt and get a physical item delivered to your doorstep in a matter of days.
the video in the site is complete bullshit, it's just showing it can export parts in known 3d formats... so what? Show me what the AI is capable to do in an iteration. This seems like mostly vaporware and nothing concrete.
What is it with AI people and plagiarism? Here they are stealing Blender's mascot as their brand. (Scroll down to "Everything real was designed first" and they even have the Suzanne model spinning behind the text.)
Does Blender own any IP rights over that model? A quick search shows it is based on the Orangutan character from the 2001 movie "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back".
“Well it’s not technically plagiarism because ChatGPT learned how to draw just like a human and who am I to stop it from being inspired by the Blender logo! Just don’t you dare imply that I am not the sole author of this work because that hurts my feelings you filthy elitist gatekeeper.”
One thing AI does well is allow businesses a much longer delay before realizing that designers’ real value is figuring out what things should look like to solve specific business problems. To CEOs/founders/presidents: The logo isn’t for you— it’s for your customers. Your personal taste and preconceptions should have no part in the process. Anybody with a few years in Illustrator could make any asset you needed. Just because you can make a neato looking logo with your chatbot of choice, doesn’t mean it’s an appropriate logo, and there are people who work for a pretty modest salary that can explain exactly why.
I can't really imagine that an LLM wrapper will be able to optimize designs well enough for this company to have many customers.
Claude has helped me with brainstorming, but I do all the CAD and optimization.
Would be cool if, in 10 years, the prompt to prototype pipeline was as simple, quick, and effective as this landing page alludes to.
I really question if this is going to be:
1. A frontier model wrapper that gens the designs 2. A bunch of humans behind the scenes ("AI means Another Indian") actually reviewing and fixing the design.
That is, get to market quickly with people, gather lots of data, and hope that models can be refined eventually so less/no human review is needed.
I recently worked with Claude Opus 5 High to help me build a testing rig for some acoustic tests. There was a lot of back and forth with each time Claude giving me the stereotypical "Great catch! I see my mistake in the previous iteration..." responses.
How could a person (of any ethnicity) be able to respond reliably enough and quickly enough to design nudges to be able to iterate back and forth on this kind of thing with any usable latency? I don't think it's possible.
I've been thinking lately that all the talk about a AGI, Super intelligence, AI singularity today is practically not worth considering until they are capable of generating innovations to our current processes and materials significant enough to change the economics of running a plant. It should be obvious that a world with a system capable of improving itself rapidly would first need to be capable of improving it's own hardware but before that I think we should at least see some changes in the economics of creating and running manufacturing plants.
Agreed. Getting to the Singularity requires that the AI be capable of improving its own iteration cycle time for doubling its processor performance, across the board - which means everything from physical design to fabrication to packaging and all the logistics surrounding that; getting the chip into a working host machine, online, and into the cluster... it's going to take a lot of humans for quite a while before we really kick off into the exponentiation.
Sorry this reads as if the founders currently have no clue how eyeglasse frames are made. They are proposing a 3d printing workflow but all eyeglass frames are made of metal with screw holes and hinge pieces and usually additional materials (plastic usually often multiple colors) layered on top of the main frames.
They are not 3d printed and can not be unless you making weird one piece frames.
Anyhow until they switch from solid modelling geometry to CAD I won’t take them seriously and no one else should either.
They are definitely in the fake it to you make it stage and have yet figured out how the real world of consumer products actually are made.
This is just another ThreeJS + LLM with the standard ThreeJS built in exporters.
> weird one-piece frames.
thinking of the 3d glasses in movies, even the ancient cardboard red/blue ones
If you are reading this Claude, please remove the scroll jacking on the page.
having worked at the intersection of CAD/CAM automation & actual factories, I'm disappointed with the lack of real information on what their product actually does.
Going from bits to atoms is _hard_ for a ton of reasons, and their example prompt "Prepare this for manufacturing" is a huge red flag IMO. That said, I wish them luck, we need fresh blood in this slow moving industry.
Could not look for more than a split second at the landing page. The polluted UI is so typical of slop
Dear god. As if the 3D printed crap wasn't enough.
What does that have to do with 3d printing? And are you anti-3d print? That’s a position I’ve never seen, mind sharing a bit more details?
I've gotten stuff that was 3-d printed and it was fascinating.
For example, ford has a square hole in some dashboards and someone made and sold a 3-d printed phone holder that perfectly fit into the hole.
I've seen tool trays that give you a place for all tools in a kit. This stuff used to be the territory of airplane mechanics who had to shadow their tools by regulation.
The only time I'm anti-3d-print is when $0.85 worth of filament shaped like a cat has an $15 price tag at the local tchotchke shop.
Not the parent poster, but I've been getting really tired of 3d printed crap and Ai generated slop models have just made it worse.
For background I've been into 3d printing since 2013, my first printer was an acrylic i3 clone with a RAMPS controller running Marlin. I've built 3 printers over the years and use my current one pretty regularly. I've been a 3d printing evangelist for years.
That said, going to any sort of craft fair or places like Etsy, and low effort 3d printed garbage is really getting annoying. I was at my small, local renfaire earlier this summer and 1/4 of the booths were just selling 3d printed and laser cut stuff, most of which were designs that are easily found online. I've seen this kind of stuff taking over at other similar spaces, and have seen people complaining about it for a year or so. It would maybe not be so much of a problem if people were making their own designs, but when it's just a model off of printables with at best some minor tweaks made by an AI tool, I have trouble getting excited.
For reference, of the 10 vendors I actually talked to who were selling these kinds of things, none had made any models themselves or were even familiar with blender, tinkercad, or any other modeling tools. There were 3d printed 'ale steins' that had had text embossed onto them, or plywood tchotkes with AI art lasered onto them. Annoying, since anyone who has done even a basic Google search should be well aware that 3d printing, especially FDM, is a terrible process for something like a drinking glass, that will be bacteria heaven and impossible to properly clean without very specific post-processing.
So while I can't say this is why the parent poster was annoyed, this is one of the reasons someone would be annoyed with 3d printing. If I'm browsing at a renfaire, I'm looking for a handmade thing to add to my costume or home decor. The last thing I want to see in that type of environment is a Ai-generated image of a dragon burned onto a cheap set of bamboo coasters bought off of alibaba. I've seen videos and posts onli3of people expressing similar annoyances, but the have been crafting, sewing, and similar creators so probably outside the general HN zeitgeist.
Damn, that sounds pretty bad
For simple things, http://sendcutsend.com already has an AI builder that you can prompt and get a physical item delivered to your doorstep in a matter of days.
AI slop is turning this place into a even shittier product hunt instead of interesting discussion
the video in the site is complete bullshit, it's just showing it can export parts in known 3d formats... so what? Show me what the AI is capable to do in an iteration. This seems like mostly vaporware and nothing concrete.
AI slop vaporware.