I go back and forth on this. I'm generally opposed, but I also think that if we have a death penalty it shouldn't be so bloodless. It should be a beheading that the governor of the state has to do themselves. We shouldn't be able to pretend we aren't doing something incredibly violent
heh we're seriously considering live-streaming someone's execution but live-streaming a woman taking off her shirt to the public would be an outrage. I lean toward "America f*ck yeah!" but I know there's plenty of stupid here as well.
Who wouldn't be opposed. It is boring. Make it guillotine with a slide and bowling pins at the end. And take bets on Polymarket whether there will be split or no - then the numbers will be reversed.
We are moving anyway towards Escape from NY/LA world. Let's at least take the good parts from it.
Didn't Trump cancel the live streaming of the military execution?
I'd rather we got rid of the death penalty pretty much everywhere but the military, but I don't see how watching an execution really benefits anyone. Watching another human getting shot isn't going to benefit your soul or whatever you want to call it.
I agree. I don’t want to watch it, I’d rather have no death penalty, but if the government for and by the people is okay with killing citizens then perhaps we should be facing that, not turning our backs.
Perhaps we could then rally behind getting rid of death penalty. Or at the very least, ensure we aren’t botching every other one.
You were downvoted but you're right, live by the sword and take the risk to die by it. If you don't like the odds - and let's all hope the judicial system is efficient enough to make those odds really unfavourable - it is easy to avoid them by not committing capital crimes.
Thanks. Commenting the same logic but on the individual is definitely a downvote risk! Why have normal expectations of people when you can have extraordinary expectations of the state, and want other people to pay for it?
There are many people in these threads who state that they don't like capital punishment (OK?), add zero supporting arguments, and aggressively downvotes anyone who supports the death penalty.
Making it public will invite the deviants who derive pleasure from the audience. Look up historical behaviours of crowds in some of the last public executions in France.
If this were livestreamed you'd have just insanely grotesque stuff like livestream commentators narrating and reacting to the footage while polymarket ads play over it, making memes and remixes of it like what happened with the Charlie Kirk assassination clips. It's all sick IMO.
Good, maybe that will cause the >50% who support capital punishment to reevaluate their stance. Or at least the 30% cowards who support it but don’t want to watch.
Palmer Luckey had an ... interesting perspective on it. I was against it before, and I'm still against it, but his point was that the killing of a citizen is one of the largest possible flexes that a state can exercise, and to prevent against its abuse it should probably be more visible to more people
I think that there is likely _enough_ visibility in the case of the classic execution, which is only done after the fifth amendment has been thoroughly exercised and appeals process fully depleted, and (ironically) not nearly enough visibility in the exercise of state power done by drone strikes and such, and so I take his point and appreciate it for what it is, which predominately is that I hadn't thought about it in that way before -- I still oppose the idea, but perhaps less strongly than before now that I know that bloodlust isn't the only viable interest (tho still a tremendous worry to me)
I’m not American and I don’t support the death penalty.
That said…
If you’re going to do this, it absolutely should be a public event. If This is what a society does, the society have to own that imho. Anyone supporting it should be required to watch one first.
How can it be ok to do it but only secretly in a dark corner and not let anyone see?
1. Practically speaking, what's the intended effect, given that executions nowadays are pretty sanitized anyways? Lethal injection is basically equivalent to some guy going under anesthesia.
2. Do you actually believe in the implied principle of "if you support [x] you must watch every [x]", or are you just using it a cudgel against people you hate? Would it be fair game for anti-abortion groups to demand "if you support abortion you must watch every abortion"?
I'd like to see the rape gangs in the UK executed. As there were multiple, similar cases ran by different groups, I think it would deter the next group of rape gangs.
In this case, organized rape was effectively unpoliced for some time to avoid "community tensions" with police saying the children involved "were slags". The message should be sent that organized crime will now be prosecuted.
It's not that simple. To my knowledge, this problem goes back to the 1980s at least, and back then it wasn't Asian gangs. The excuses were the same. Social workers believed the under-age girls were entitled to a love life. Police thought they were slags. Nobody actually cared about them. Nobody did anything.
The ethnicity of the more recent perpetrators just provided another excuse. It wasn't the root cause of the inaction.
This seems like a "you can't flip the switch" meme. Yes, it really is that simple. I can lave my laptop unattended in an unlocked coworking space in Singapore because people know they'll be punished if they rob me. It's marvellous.
I haven't heard of a similar case of organized mass rape before this, so it's surprising to read you comment, but if you have sources add them here. Like many of the UK's problems, the issue isn't ethnicity, but rather Islam, which explicitly permits sexual slavery.
I go back and forth on this. I'm generally opposed, but I also think that if we have a death penalty it shouldn't be so bloodless. It should be a beheading that the governor of the state has to do themselves. We shouldn't be able to pretend we aren't doing something incredibly violent
I wonder how people would weigh in on the death penalty if the executioner got selected from the criminal's peers akin to a jury.
Probably bad idea. People are incompetent in killing.
…and once again, „flood the zone with shit“ works just beautifully.
They push out one outrageous diversion after another, and you fall for it.
I wouldn't want to watch it. I think we should abolish the death penalty. Make people live the rest of their lives with their mistakes.
heh we're seriously considering live-streaming someone's execution but live-streaming a woman taking off her shirt to the public would be an outrage. I lean toward "America f*ck yeah!" but I know there's plenty of stupid here as well.
The other two in ten are not scheduled for execution.
I support the death penalty for people I personally want to kill, which is why the death penalty is probably a bad idea.
Who wouldn't be opposed. It is boring. Make it guillotine with a slide and bowling pins at the end. And take bets on Polymarket whether there will be split or no - then the numbers will be reversed.
We are moving anyway towards Escape from NY/LA world. Let's at least take the good parts from it.
Didn't Trump cancel the live streaming of the military execution?
I'd rather we got rid of the death penalty pretty much everywhere but the military, but I don't see how watching an execution really benefits anyone. Watching another human getting shot isn't going to benefit your soul or whatever you want to call it.
The OP article is dated October 15, 2026, it also says:
> The poll was conducted online Oct. 9-13 among 2,545 U.S. adults nationwide reached through the Ipsos KnowledgePanel
Apparently Trump called off the livestream on October 15: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crx23qlnj27qo.
So this article is last week's news.
Who are the fucking ghouls that want to see someone executed live ? 20% of the population ? Jesus fucking tap-dancing christ almighty.
20% is a lot. All the families that were hurt by a terrorist attack, or even some attack, can have some relief by revenge. It makes sense.
Seems unlikely to me that 20% of the population were connected to a terrorist attack by someone who would be executed.
Even if, I don't see how seeing one of the perpetrators getting killed many years later would give relief.
I also believe eternal prison is a bigger punishment than execution.
Not by the same one that is going to be executed.
He spent his life in prison, now he would be executed live, everyone would see how he's going to die, and for him at least, it's very disrespecting.
It's not necessarily just about wanting to see someone executed. Which is worse:
- Executing people in a way that makes us not have to think about it as a society, or only think about it in passing
- Executing people in our faces, so we have to think about it
Personally I find the first option gross. "Out of sight, out of mind"--you know what I mean?
I agree. I don’t want to watch it, I’d rather have no death penalty, but if the government for and by the people is okay with killing citizens then perhaps we should be facing that, not turning our backs.
Perhaps we could then rally behind getting rid of death penalty. Or at the very least, ensure we aren’t botching every other one.
Well, the sanest option is to not have the death penalty at all. Anything else is trying to make the problem work.
The sanest option is not to commit capital crimes.
You were downvoted but you're right, live by the sword and take the risk to die by it. If you don't like the odds - and let's all hope the judicial system is efficient enough to make those odds really unfavourable - it is easy to avoid them by not committing capital crimes.
Thanks. Commenting the same logic but on the individual is definitely a downvote risk! Why have normal expectations of people when you can have extraordinary expectations of the state, and want other people to pay for it?
There are many people in these threads who state that they don't like capital punishment (OK?), add zero supporting arguments, and aggressively downvotes anyone who supports the death penalty.
The sanest option is not to have capital crimes, that way nobody can commit them.
Making it public will invite the deviants who derive pleasure from the audience. Look up historical behaviours of crowds in some of the last public executions in France.
If this were livestreamed you'd have just insanely grotesque stuff like livestream commentators narrating and reacting to the footage while polymarket ads play over it, making memes and remixes of it like what happened with the Charlie Kirk assassination clips. It's all sick IMO.
Good, maybe that will cause the >50% who support capital punishment to reevaluate their stance. Or at least the 30% cowards who support it but don’t want to watch.
Palmer Luckey had an ... interesting perspective on it. I was against it before, and I'm still against it, but his point was that the killing of a citizen is one of the largest possible flexes that a state can exercise, and to prevent against its abuse it should probably be more visible to more people
I think that there is likely _enough_ visibility in the case of the classic execution, which is only done after the fifth amendment has been thoroughly exercised and appeals process fully depleted, and (ironically) not nearly enough visibility in the exercise of state power done by drone strikes and such, and so I take his point and appreciate it for what it is, which predominately is that I hadn't thought about it in that way before -- I still oppose the idea, but perhaps less strongly than before now that I know that bloodlust isn't the only viable interest (tho still a tremendous worry to me)
Except the execution wasn't being presented as a somber recognition of the brutalism of the death penalty, but a celebration of vengeance.
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I’m not American and I don’t support the death penalty.
That said…
If you’re going to do this, it absolutely should be a public event. If This is what a society does, the society have to own that imho. Anyone supporting it should be required to watch one first.
How can it be ok to do it but only secretly in a dark corner and not let anyone see?
Everyone who is for the death penalty should be legally obligated to watch every single execution.
1. Practically speaking, what's the intended effect, given that executions nowadays are pretty sanitized anyways? Lethal injection is basically equivalent to some guy going under anesthesia.
2. Do you actually believe in the implied principle of "if you support [x] you must watch every [x]", or are you just using it a cudgel against people you hate? Would it be fair game for anti-abortion groups to demand "if you support abortion you must watch every abortion"?
> Lethal injection is basically equivalent to some guy going under anesthesia.
The “safe” dose of midazolam used for anesthesia is orders of magnitude smaller than the dose commonly used in lethal injection.
> Would it be fair game for anti-abortion groups to demand "if you support abortion you must watch every abortion"?
This was actually a tactic used by anti-abortion groups back when Roe was settled law.
While we are at it, Can we have all non-vegetarians watch all the slaughter houses?
Many if not all of us would be okay. Not to mention that many people have some experience of killing animals for food anyway.
seems fair. As a meat eater I am for it
If we do this, Abortion proponenets are going to have a lot of watching to do.
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I'd like to see the rape gangs in the UK executed. As there were multiple, similar cases ran by different groups, I think it would deter the next group of rape gangs.
If the death penalty deterred anyone, there only would have been a single death penalty ever (or only one for every sort of crime).
Have you been to Singapore recently?
In this case, organized rape was effectively unpoliced for some time to avoid "community tensions" with police saying the children involved "were slags". The message should be sent that organized crime will now be prosecuted.
It's not that simple. To my knowledge, this problem goes back to the 1980s at least, and back then it wasn't Asian gangs. The excuses were the same. Social workers believed the under-age girls were entitled to a love life. Police thought they were slags. Nobody actually cared about them. Nobody did anything.
The ethnicity of the more recent perpetrators just provided another excuse. It wasn't the root cause of the inaction.
This seems like a "you can't flip the switch" meme. Yes, it really is that simple. I can lave my laptop unattended in an unlocked coworking space in Singapore because people know they'll be punished if they rob me. It's marvellous.
I haven't heard of a similar case of organized mass rape before this, so it's surprising to read you comment, but if you have sources add them here. Like many of the UK's problems, the issue isn't ethnicity, but rather Islam, which explicitly permits sexual slavery.
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